Shields and Brooks on Keystone pipeline politics, Ben Carson claims

Shields and Brooks on Keystone pipeline politics, Ben Carson claims

JUDY WOODRUFF: But, first, a White House decision finally on the Keystone pipeline, a rough week for some Republican candidates, and wins for conservatives on Election Day.

First, we turn to the analysis of Shields and Brooks. Thats syndicated columnist Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks.

Gentlemen, welcome.

MARK SHIELDS: Judy.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Its great to have you here.

So, that Keystone pipeline decision, David, the president finally seven years later, we now know hes against it.

DAVID BROOKS: Yes. Well, first of all, it could be mythical. With oil prices so low, they might never build it anyway. So, it really doesnt matter at some level.

But pretending it matters, I do think its an anti-environmental, anti-science move. His State Department and many other experts decided, if the oil is going to come out of the sands, its a lot cleaner to have it go through the pipeline than to put on trains or trucks and send it over to China through ships that way.

And, so, if the oil comes out of the sands, which its going to do if it makes economic sense, we might as well do it in the cleanest way possible. So, to me, this is just a political decision to placate some people who hes offended with some of his other decisions.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Political decision, Mark?

MARK SHIELDS: I dont think anyone could accuse the president of being impulsive. It was seven years, five exhaustive studies.

(LAUGHTER)

MARK SHIELDS: And I think it became a symbol for both sides, bigger than it was really.

I dont think it was going to be an environmental disaster. And I dont think, with gasoline $2 a gallon cheaper than it was the day that Barack Obama was nominated, the urgency had abated.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, lets quickly turn, because theres so much news to ask you both about.

Jobs reports, David, some really good numbers today. More jobs than what had been forecast. Unemployment rate is down, I guess, as low as its been in seven years, and not only but there is still this worry about the so-called participation rate. How do you read this?

DAVID BROOKS: Well, so far, obviously, its great.

And if this maintains, its great for Hillary Clinton or the Democratic nominee. The political effects are kind of simple and obvious. The labor force participation rate is the worrying one, because it didnt change. And so all these people are out of the job market. Are they people who could get back in if there were jobs out there, or are they people who have been so far out, that they really cant get back in?

And there was this troubling study that came out earlier in the week that middle-aged white life expectancy is dropping, which is astounding. And its dropping because of liver diseases, suicide. Its dropping because of social dysfunction. And those are presumably a lot of people who are out of the labor force.

And so, if it keeps going, we will be able to see if some of these people can get back in and have productive lives, have busy lives, have fulfilling lives. But if theyre permanently out no matter what the unemployment rate is, then we have got a gigantic problem.

JUDY WOODRUFF: That was a disturbing report.

MARK SHIELDS: Well, your discussion this week with Dante and the professor from Princeton really hit on the fact that so many of these people, its not just liver disease and smoking and drinking. Its jobs and lives that have been changed.

Its the cost of the deindustrialization of America. These people, the high school graduates who had great lives, good jobs and could raise a family and live comfortably, and all of a sudden thats gone. And behind it is a low-paying job, many times not even that.

The numbers today, just think of this, Judy. When Barack when Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney were nominated, the unemployment rate in the country was 8.2 percent. Thats just, what, three years ago. OK? And at that time, they pledged to get unemployment in their first term under 6 percent.

Today, its 5 percent. There were more private sector jobs created in the past month than there were in eight years of George W. Bush. So, its good news. Were still waiting for the wages to kick up, but it is good news.

I share with David the concern about the participation in the labor force, but this is good news, and its good news for the country.

JUDY WOODRUFF: I ask because people are just seem to have that never-ending debate, is the glass half-full or is the glass half-empty? And these numbers seem to raise that question again.

DAVID BROOKS: Yes.

And there were fears that if you look at the normal rhythm of a recovery, were so deep into this recovery time-wise that you could think, well, maybe its time for another recession. There was some fear of that. But we dont seem close to being in another recession. That is excellent news. The Fed is now likely to raise rates.

And so its good news. And its just plain old good news. We might as well lie back and enjoy it.

MARK SHIELDS: Accept it.

(LAUGHTER)

JUDY WOODRUFF: All right, several things to ask you about with regard to the campaigns.

Some interesting reporting this week, Mark, about the campaigns both of Marco Rubio and what hes said or not said about his own personal financial past, and then today and in the last few days a lot of reporting about around Ben Carson and what he said in a book, which I happen to have right here, that came out 25 years ago, where he made different claims about whether he was accepted at West Point, offered a scholarship, whether he applied and got a scholarship, and then another one about whether he knifed tried to knife a friend or a family member.

Does all this, at this point in the campaign, add up to something? What are we to make of all this?

MARK SHIELDS: Well, the choice of president, Judy, is the most personal vote that any American casts.

We get an information overload about these people. And it really is in the final analysis a choice on character and how comfortable we are with the person. So, the higher the office, the more important the candidate, and you fly at a higher visibility when youre running for president. You get more exposure.

Your credentials are scrutinized. Your record is scrutinized. And the failures of our presidents over the past half-century have not been failures of intellect or education. They have been failures of personality or character.

Now, Ben Carson presents a rather remarkable exception. Most candidates get in trouble by embellishing their record, that is, by saying they were a junior varsity, that they were actually all state in football, or that I was at the top of my class, when it took me five years to get through high school.

Ben Carson wants to present himself as a thug, a hoodlum, a really bad

JUDY WOODRUFF: When he was 14.

MARK SHIELDS: When he was 14. And but nobody else will support him.

They remember him and he talks about putting a knife and running into the belt. He would have inflicted great bodily harm. I just find that rather bizarre.

DAVID BROOKS: Has there ever been a Christian memoir where the Christian says, well, when I was a sinner, I was a really very serious sinner. And so they are all bragging about how bad they were and then they were redeemed.

So, its not atypical. Im wondering, will it hurt him? I play this little mental game with myself. Imagine a candidate I really admired. I heard he exaggerated his West Point possible admissions. Would I say, oh, I really admire that guy, but he told a fib about his early youth, I think I wont support him anymore? I dont think I would do that.

If there were six fibs, maybe.

MARK SHIELDS: Yes.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Yes.

DAVID BROOKS: But if its this one or this two, its hard for me to imagine an actual voter who really likes Ben Carson walking away because of this.

Memoirists, every memoir has some exaggerations and some melodrama, and were all sinners, so I dont think this rises to the level where its going to hurt him, at least so far.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, both Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are saying these are questions the press just is wasting their time asking, that theyre way off the point. Are these legitimate questions?

MARK SHIELDS: Well, yes, theyre legitimate questions, because the president is an enormously important office that touches the lives of everybody in this country.

And what kind of a person, the candor, the character, the constancy, the reliability Ben Carsons problem is, he wrote this about himself. This isnt what somebody else alleged about him. So, I think and we dont have a lot about Ben Carson we know. He hasnt been in office for 12, 14, 15 years, say, oh, well, this was just a little I think Marco Rubio is different.

Marco Rubio, this has been kicking around on Marco Rubio, the charge about using the charge card of the Florida state party when he was speaker of the House in Tallahassee, for five or six year years. He should be ready to take care of it. He should be ready to rebut it and he should do it forthrightly. Its kind of, Im going to come up with the information. Im going to find it.

Its a little bit like the way Jeb Bush handled the question of his brother going into Iraq without there being any weapons of mass destruction. Would you do it? It took him a week to do it. He changed his answers four or five times.

I just think this is one where Marco Rubio should be ready to step up because he knew it was coming.

DAVID BROOKS: Yes. Its obviously unconsciously very difficult for him.

I wonder if he could get away with just saying, I made a mistake, and I want to apologize. It was a mistake.

MARK SHIELDS: Yes.

DAVID BROOKS: It would be interesting to see if that would work.

The Rubio allegations come in two categories. The one is about the student loans and the buying the boat. And those, I think, are fine, because they just show hes a normal guy. He had some economic struggles. He had some young kids, so he cashed in their retirement account.

The credit card is the tougher one. And some partly, hes blamed a travel agent and stuff like that. But he should just come out, I would say, and say, listen, we have made mistakes in life. This was one of mine.

It would be a gutsy thing to do. But it would be candid. And we saw this Chris Christie video this week about addiction. We found it so moving. And I would encourage all the candidates, be more personal. Just be more personal. Dont be a machine. Dont let the consultants control everything.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Very quickly, you mentioned Jeb Bush this week.

Yesterday, I was able to we were able to air the interview I did with Jon Meacham, the author whos written a book, really comprehensive biography of President Bush 41, George H.W. Bush.

The news coming out of that, Mark, was the criticism that the first President Bush makes of his sons secretary of his vice president and his secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld and d**k Cheney.

And this week, you had the younger Bush commenting, saying, I stand by what I did.

And it put it was interesting how it put Jeb Bush a little bit on the spot again about the Iraq War. Is this the kind of thing that is a problem for Jeb Bush? Does this go anywhere? What do you make of this?

MARK SHIELDS: Its a problem for Jeb Bush.

Jeb Bush is trying to get back on stride. Hes trying to get over a bad debate, trying to get the bad campaign back on, wants to show himself connecting with voters. And so what is the question? He sits down for the interviews and they ask, what do you think about your father criticizing your brothers secretary of defense, saying that very unflattering things about d**k Cheney and Don Rumsfeld?

It has always mystified everybody who knew the first President Bush why W. ever chose Don Rumsfeld, who had actually knifed Bush 41, his father

JUDY WOODRUFF: His father, yes.

MARK SHIELDS: and really was and then, of course, administered the coup in his rebuttal about the book by saying, well, hes obviously getting up in years and hes too old, something that Jon Meacham put to I thought to rest in his interview with you, that he was very much alert and involved and engaged.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Thats exactly what he said.

Is this the kind of thing the matters today, David?

DAVID BROOKS: Well, it will hurt it will be a distraction for Bush. But Bush is at 4 percent. He has got bigger bigger problems.

But the things the elder Bush said, the younger Bush, W. Bush, believed by 2005. This was a conventional view. I think these interviews were done in 08 and 10.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Thats right.

DAVID BROOKS: And so George W. Bush had come to these views about Cheney and Rumsfeld at the same time.

One of the there are many things that interest me about what Meacham has come up with. One is that the elder Bush didnt talk that much about the war to the younger to the president, very reticent, very withdrawn, second, that their Iraq policies were not that different, where we had always imagined the big differences between the two.

So, there is a lot of interesting stuff in there. Im struck by Bush family reticence. And we see it hurting Jeb these days.

MARK SHIELDS: I always thought that the piece signed in The Wall Street Journal by Jim Baker and

DAVID BROOKS: Scowcroft.

MARK SHIELDS: and Brent Scowcroft

JUDY WOODRUFF: Brent Scowcroft.

MARK SHIELDS: his national security adviser and his closest political adviser, warning against the invasion by the United States of Iraq, was the memo to Bush 41 to Bush 43, which he chose to ignore.

And when Bob Woodward asked him if he talked to his father, he said, I speak to my divine father.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Thats right, the higher father. He said higher father.

MARK SHIELDS: The higher father. Higher father.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Yes.

MARK SHIELDS: I mean, thus putting him in his place.

JUDY WOODRUFF: All right.

We didnt get around to those elections this week. We will talk about it next Friday.

MARK SHIELDS: Promise?

JUDY WOODRUFF: Mark, I promise, I promise.

Mark Shields, David Brooks, thank you both.

DAVID BROOKS: Thank you, Judy.

Source: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/shields-brooks-keystone-pipeline-politics-ben-carson-claims/

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Area"s two congressmen differ on Keystone pipeline

President Obama rejects Keystone Pipeline
THOUSAND PALMS, Calif. -

While U.S. Rep. Paul Cook (R-Apple Valley) called President Barack Obama"s decision to reject an application to build the Keystone XL pipeline a "slap in the face of Americans," U.S.Rep. Raul Ruiz (D-Palm Springs) applauded the move.

"I voted against the pipeline," Rep. Ruiz told CBS Local 2"s Kris Long Friday evening during a live Newsmaker segment.

Cook represents the High Desert communities of Joshua Tree, Yucca Valley, and Twentynine Palms, as well as areas north including Yucaipa, Apple Valley and Barstow. Ruiz represents the Coachella Valley, south to the Salton Sea and east to Blythe.

Both congressman said jobs were a key component of the controversial project, which would have run from Canada to Texas.

Cook"s response virtually echoed that of the new Speaker of the House, Rep. Paul Ryan, who said, "By rejecting this pipeline, the president is rejecting tens of thousands of good-paying jobs."

"Until today, the president was the only obstacle standing in the way of building the Keystone XL pipeline and putting Americans back to work," said Cook. "Blocking the creation of this pipeline is a slap in the face to Americans looking for work. This is about jobs, jobs, and more jobs."

But Ruiz countered that "more jobs can be created building our water storage and transportation infrastructure."

The decision is a clear victory for environmental activists who strongly opposed the pipeline. But it also places the president and fellow Democrats in direct confrontation with Republicans and energy advocates heading into the 2016 presidential election.

"The sad truth is that today, hardworking people lost and wealthy environmental extremists won," said Cook.

However, Ruiz said "The Keystone pipeline was a giveaway to a big Canadian oil company allowing them to transport their oil for their profits on our land without any responsibility or enough accountability against an oil spill."

Source: http://www.kesq.com/news/areas-two-congressmen-differ-on-keystone-pipeline/36311204

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Meet the Failed Keystone Pipeline Bill's Biggest Winner, and Loser

Despite his sponsoring the House version of the Keystone a bill that died in the Senate Tuesday night, there is perhaps no bigger winner from the legislations defeat than Louisiana GOP Rep. Bill Cassidy.

And there is likely no bigger loser than the states Sen. Mary Landrieu, the Democrat who is on the defensive as she heads to a Dec. 6 runoff election against Cassidy.

Cassidys campaign was quick to seize on the bills defeat, which came up shy of passing by just one vote, as an example of Landrieus failed leadership.

"Senator Mary Landrieus failure to pass the Keystone XL Pipeline this evening is a perfect snapshot of her time as chair of the Energy Committee; a failure, Cassidy campaign spokesman John Cummins said in a statement sent soon after Tuesday nights vote.

But even if the bill had passed, it was unclear how Landrieu, 58, would have translated a legislative victory into an electoral one. With the clock ticking down to the runoff, the embattled Democrat faces several major hurdles on the road to re-election:

1. Landrieus Other Republican Problem

In the general election earlier this month, Cassidy, 57, was already close on Landrieus heels, finishing with 41 percent of the total vote, compared with Landrieus 42 percent. A second Republican in the race, tea party-backed candidate Rob Maness, captured 14 percent of the vote and, in so doing, prevented both Landrieu and Cassidy from clearing the 50 percent threshold necessary to avoid a runoff.

While Maness had no shortage of criticism for Cassidy in the general election, he has since moved to endorse his fellow Republican in the runoff and supported him in building a coalition of tea party support. Conservative stars such as Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson and former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin have come to Cassidys side since he advanced to the runoff.

2. Democrats Are on the Run

While Cassidy has seen an outpouring of new Republican endorsements and support, Landrieu is waging a lonely battle as the national Democratic Party licks its wounds after a wave of defeats earlier this month. Perhaps the biggest blow came when the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee pulled back a previously reserved $2 million worth of television advertising from Louisiana after the general election.

3. #WhiteVoter Problems

Landrieu has a problem with white voters, who voted overwhelmingly Republican in Louisiana two weeks ago. She needs to get close to 30 percent of the white vote in order to win in next months runoff. But according to exit polls, she only captured 18 percent of that constituency Nov. 4. In 2008, by contrast, she won with 33 percent of the white vote.

Although Louisiana saw a record turnout of nonwhite voters in this years general election, of whom nearly 9 out 10 voted for Landrieu, that constituency is not enough to secure a victory for Landrieu without a complimenting segment of the white vote.

4. This Year Is Not Like the Others

Runoffs are hardly unchartered territory to Landrieu, who has won two out of three of her previous victories this way (one in 1996 and again in 2002). Its a point her campaign emphasizes as Landrieu heads to her third. She's done it before, and she'll do it again, campaign manager Ryan Berni said in a memo sent to supporters earlier this month. In 2002 in particular, Republicans had a big win, and President Bush was at his peak approval ratings, yet Mary still found a way to pull through.

In some ways, 2002 was similar to 2014. Like this years midterms, the GOP enjoyed a wave of victories in 2002 and gained a new majority in the Senate at a time when then-President George W. Bush enjoyed broad popularity. But Landrieu managed a surprise win.

Before entering the 2002 runoff, she had run a campaign that emphasized her similarities to the then-popular Republican president. She rallied her base to the polls in December, after many of those voters had sat out the general election.

This year, however, the bigger problem is that her base is increasingly small because of changes in the Louisiana electorate since 2002. The state has grown increasingly red in the past 12 years and 19 percent of the Orleans Parish, which was pivotal in securing her 2002 victory, permanently relocated after Hurricane Katrina.

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-failed-keystone-pipeline-bills-biggest-winner-loser/story?id%3D27023243

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